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Ending Aircraft Noise Is a Priority for Community Board 7

October 20, 2020 by Marie Schulte-Bockum

A helicopter flies across the New York City skyline. Photo by Chris Barbalis/Unsplash

Upper West Side residents, fed up with low-flying aircraft, are speaking out. On a two-hour Zoom call last Tuesday, the transportation committee for Community Board 7 spent most of the time airing their grievances about noise and environmental damage caused by private helicopters.

With many residents working from home and commuting to residences outside of the city, due to the pandemic, the helicopter noise is escalating, said committee members, with a consensus that it’s become worse during the day, compared to previous years. A few CB7 members said they would like to make aircraft noise a campaign issue in the New York mayoral race.

Helicopter noise over Manhattan is not a new issue, but residents hoped lawmakers would have intervened by now. In October 2019, seven New York members of Congress, including Rep. Jerry Nadler and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, introduced a federal bill that would ban helicopters flying over cities of more than 8 million people, unless they were law enforcement, emergency, medical or military aircraft. 

April Adams, a community liaison for CB7, said that a helicopter task force created by Manhattan Borough president Gale Brewer had reconvened last year but yielded no results. The task force was founded in support of Stop the Chop, a New York and New Jersey grassroots organization aimed to ban non-essential helicopters, particularly those operated by private companies, from flying over New York City.  

Committee member Melissa Elstein said that she hoped there would be a new national administration in November, “because there is no getting this done with the GOP.”

Andrew Albert, another transportation committee member, said that the Federal Aviation Agency “will do nothing” to address aircraft noise and neither will Mayor Bill de Blasio. After meeting with Rep. Nadler’s office to voice his concerns, Albert said, “Don’t look for any help from Washington is the message I got here.”

Several attendees complained about private flights coming from Teterboro Airport, in New Jersey, saying that there was a lot of additional noise on Fridays and Sundays, when some New Yorkers fly to the Hamptons and upstate for the weekend.

Meanwhile, some Upper West Siders have started keeping tabs on aircraft flying over their residences. Committee member Doug Kleiman, who is studying to become a pilot, said that he monitors the air traffic from where he lives using a scanner and a “good pair of binoculars.”

Elstein recommended that other members download Flight Radar 24, a free app that tracks planes and helicopters on a map in real-time, showing each aircraft’s point of origin, destination, owner and photo of the specific aircraft model.  Elstein said people should look out for “companies with a bad reputation.” She specifically mentioned FLYNON, a sightseeing company known for “doors off” flights, as well as Liberty, a helicopter sightseeing company that had three crashes in 11 years, including a 2018 crash in the East River that left 5 people dead. 

Another Upper West Side resident said that she makes a note of every flight she hears. Constanze Doerr, who lives on 94th Street and Broadway, said she tracks flights going toward Central Park. She said that on a clear weekend, there’s a new helicopter every one or two minutes between 9 a.m. and 11 p.m.

“I clock it, I hear it, it’s insanity,” said Doerr, who also described the effect that helicopters are having on local wildlife. “I see the birds when I do yoga in Central Park every morning. Around 9:30 a.m., you can hear three helicopters. The birds all fly up, they get angsty.”

For next month’s transportation committee meeting, CB7 members plan to invite the New York City Economic Development Corporation, a non-profit, to talk about the ongoing helicopter issue.  In 2010, the NYC EDC helped a similar “Stop the Chop” campaign in DUMBO and Brooklyn Heights by negotiating with sightseeing helicopter companies.

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Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, CB7, Central Park Helicopters, FLYNYON, Jerry Nadler, Liberty Helicopter New York, Manhattan CB7, Manhattan Community Board 7, Stop the Chop New York, Upper West Side

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  1. AvatarMelissa Elstein says

    October 22, 2020 at 12:28 am

    Thank you to NYC Reopens for reporting on this important issue negatively affecting so many in NYC and the NY Metropolitan area. Nonessential helicopters, such as the ever-increasing tourist, photography and commuter helicopters, create unnecessary noise and environmental pollution, reduce our quality of life and create needless stressful conditions, place residents and tourists at risk of crashes, and destroy the peacefulness of our urban parks and waterways. Helicopter joyrides over densely populated urban areas create unnecessary risks to life and property, as we know firsthand from the numerous fatal crashes that have already occurred. Additionally, as we face planetary crises of climate change and Covid-19, it makes no sense that fossil-fuel guzzling helicopters are allowed to fly at whim criss-crossing over our cities, circling low around our parks and landmarks, roaring up and down our waterways, when we should instead be reducing our use of oil and gas, and reducing air pollution (especially considering that asthma is a pre-existing condition making one more vulnerable to Covid-19).
    If you agree, please join our nonprofit coalition at
    http://www.stopthechopnynj.org and sign the petition: https://www.change.org/StoptheChopNYNJ
    (Please note I am not a member of Manhattan Community Board 7; I was invited to join the Zoom Transportation Committee meeting due to my volunteer community work with The West 80s Neighborhood Association (www.west80s.org) and Stop The Chop NY/NJ).

  2. AvatarCaroline says

    October 23, 2020 at 10:30 am

    Please continue to report on this issue.

    It’s bad enough that these low-flying helicopters prevent us from going out onto our roofs, fire-escapes, and parks for much-needed vitamin-D and lockdown sanity breaks. But for many, our apt windows, even when closed, do not filter out the noise – so we’re not even spared inside our own homes.

    I can’t imagine any of the people piloting these flights would do this to their own families or neighbors, nor would they tolerate it if their own homes were buzzed day in and day out.

  3. AvatarRose Macleod says

    October 26, 2020 at 11:00 am

    It was my understanding that the NYC EDC controls those NYC helipads so I’m happy they’ve finally recognized that there’s a quality of life problem and will hopefully help do something about it.
    Thanks to “Stopthechopny” for keeping this on the table – maybe my backyard in Whitestone will be livable again!

    • AvatarJJ says

      October 27, 2020 at 11:12 pm

      The EDC and the Mayor are doing absolutely nothing to stop them now that they are based in NJ our local nyc fake goverment says its not our problem and is not even supporting our fight to ban the low flying selfie choppers!!!

  4. AvatarJJ says

    October 27, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    Tx for the great article. What possible reason would there be for any politician to favor the wealthy helicopter sightseers and selfie photographers over the peace and quiet of an entire city??? You call the cops if hot rods make insane noise in our city streets, so where are the FAA cops for the choppers flying in between tall buildings for fun???

  5. AvatarLynette says

    November 16, 2020 at 1:33 am

    The noise from the helicopters on clear days is unbearable. Sometimes there are three at once, one waiting to get in the park , one in the park and one coming out, and they hover right over my house so they can take pictures of the pretty fall scenes. They make lots of money for the tour groups , while we all pay the price trying to live our lives while stuck at home with shut windows while they whirl overhead, and even that doesn’t help. They start at 9:30am and go well into the night, one after the other. Like a ride at Disney land. The park should be a place to get away from our daily pandemic life, but instead it feels like the set of Miss Saigon.

  6. AvatarBill says

    December 4, 2020 at 4:14 pm

    Heliflights , a helicopter tourism business based out of Linden airport , has their helicopters flying within 500 feet of residential rooftops located on Staten Island’s North shore. Flights start as early at 10:00 AM and ends at 9:30PM. On a clear day , it averages to one every 15 minutes.

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